In this episode Jason addresses the egregious errors in the publication entitled “Should you believe in the Trinity”. He goes into what the Ante-Nicene Fathers believed about the doctrine of the Trinity. The JW booklet makes the astounding claim that the Church Father’s prior to the Council of Nicea in 325 AD did not actually believe in the doctrine of the Trinity as espoused by the Nicene Creed. Jason takes the argument and demonstrates that it is historically fallacious and a deliberate attempt to deceive.
In 1989 the Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society published a pamphlet entitled “Should you believe in the Trinity” (link to pamphlet). That particular publication says there were 5 million copies published in English at that printing. I recently received a hard copy of this pamphlet from a fellow Christian that had an encounter with some JWs. He brought it to me because he had some questions about the claims that are made in the tract on page 7. His questions in particular were about the supposed citations from the Ante-Nicene church fathers.
This article is to address the egregious errors and atrocious scholarship that went into these citations. In fact the errors are so clear that the intention could have only been deception. I will address each of these supposed citations one at a time.
In this episode of the LBM Podcast we have Carl Albert associated with the Israel Doctrine (loosely affiliated with the Hebrew Israelite movement) back again joining us for a discussion on the deity of the Holy Spirit. Jason defends the position that the Holy Spirit is indeed God and the 3rd person within the Trinity, Carl takes the position that the Holy Spirit is a created being specifically the angel Gabriel.
In this episode of the LBM Podcast we have a guest (Carl Albert) associated with the Israel Doctrine (loosely affiliated with the Hebrew Israelite movement), join us for a discussion on the ontology of the God of the Bible. Jason defends the orthodox Christian view of the Trinity and Carl promotes his self proclaimed henotheistic view of the Godhead. Carl’s view might more accurately be described as ditheism instead of henotheism as he believes that there are two ontologically identical yet separate beings of God that are worthy of worship. He believes the Bible teaches there are two Gods. The discussion goes into the Biblical texts and into the distinction between being and person. The deity of the Holy Spirit is then discussed, Jason takes the position that the Holy Spirit is the 3rd person within the one being of God and Carl takes the position that the Holy Spirit is a created being specifically the angel Gabriel.
In this episode Jason first addresses a portion of last week’s episode with Christopher Maute. Secondly he addresses the Realistic Nihilist’s supposed Omnipotence Paradox and his claim that this renders the Christian view of God incoherent. After that there is a discussion of the different Trinitarian Heresies and a defense of the orthodox Trinitarian view.
Is that great doctrine of the Trinity only found in the New Testament and the creeds of the early church? Let us take a moment to examine the Old Testament for shadows and hints to the multipersonal nature of the one being of the God in the Hebrew Scriptures. Interestingly enough beginning in the very first chapter of Genesis we start to see signs of this.
If the first verse of the Bible it says “In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth.” The word translated into English here as “God” is the Hebrew word “elohiym” (אֱלֹהִים). The word “elohiym” is the generic word in Hebrew for “god” and it is a masculine plural noun. It is used in Hebrew in much the same way as the word “god” is used in English. It can be used to represent the one and true “God” or it can also be used to refer to a false “god”. It’s usage is determined by it’s context in exactly the same way we use the word “god” in English. The thing that is interesting is the word “elohiym” here is the plural form of the masculine singuar noun “elowahh” (אֱלוֹהַּ). This is because the noun “elohiym” ends in the letters “Yod” and “Mem” (י and ם). The letters “Yod” and “Mem” ending a word make singular masculine nouns plural in the same way as “s” and “es” make singular nouns plural in English. The singular noun form of “”elowahh” is used in poetry and in later Hebrew (i.e. Deut 32:15,17) but most of the time the plural form “elohiym” is used when referring to “God”. This is interesting because the very first verse of the Bible already hints at a plurality.
All Scripture references in the following post are taken from the NWT Translation of the Bible. This is intended for reaching out to Jehovah’s Witnesses. This post is not intended as a full defense of the Triune nature of God as that defense would be done with a more accurate translation of the Bible.
In the book of Deuteronomy 6:4 we find God’s revelation which says “Jehovah our God is one Jehovah”. Also in the book of Isaiah 43:11 we find another revelation which says “I am Jehovah, and besides me there is no savior”. With these verses in mind, we can trust God’s promise that He is the only one God (Jehovah) who is our only Savior.
To support this great truth, revealed to us by God, we can also look at other references in the Bible. For example, in the Old Testament, in Hosea 13:4 “But I am Jehovah your God from the land of Egypt; You knew no God except me, And besides me there is no savior”. Psalm 3:8 says “Salvation belongs to Jehovah” and Psalm 37:39, “The salvation of the righteous is from Jehovah”. In Jonah 2:9 “…Salvation is from Jehovah”. We can also find support in the New Testament in Luke 1:47 “… and my spirit cannot keep from being overjoyed at God my Savior”. Also in 1 Timothy 4:10 “…we have rested our hope on a living God, who is a Savior…” and 1 Timothy 2:3 “This is fine and acceptable in the sight of our Savior, God…”